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moment. the movie's global premier comes out as once again the world is focused on somalia. he's the franchise behind the deadly attack in nairobi, kenya. it was the most shocking blow to america's psyche since vietnam. after yu.s. troops pulled out i 1994, the country sank into an abyss of failed state. attacks by somali pirates was already an epidemic when four
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armed men from a coastal fishing village force ed they're way aboard the u.s. container slip. the captain, an american named phillips was taken hostage leaving the crew and the ship behind. it's brought to life in edge of your seat detail in captain phillips the movie. later in the program, i'll speak to the somali who plays the pirate captain. first, tom hanks and paul greengrass. two men accomplished at telling the dramatic human stories behind real life events. between them they have spanned the wars from bloody sunday to saving pirate ryan and apollo
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13. tom hanks welcome. paul greengrass welcome. >> look at this we're here. >> you are. a phenomenal film full of suspense. i'm going to play one of the clips. that's when the pirates start to come on board. >> we've got a problem. we push the ship too hard. we're off the grid. that means the computer is offline. >> captain, no one gets hurt if you don't play no game. >> the ship's broken. >> nobody gets hurt. >> look at me. >> we did not know what they
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were saying. it wasn't until i saw the movie that i got their lines and their vernacular. it wasn't scripted. >> how did you do it? >> paul kept us separate. we never met the actors. we were in malta. we saw people that looked like they could be somali. >> that was the first time you had seen them? >> first time we met. >> it's sinister. look into my eye and say i'm the captain. he had a chance to say where's your crew and he would say i don't know. i'm here with you. in fact, he did know where they were. it was always true i'm here with you. i'm not with them. he just kept trying to go up
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with it. >> amazing character. you kept them away, paul. where did you find them? where did you find need actors? >> it was the big challenge of the film really. i knew we had to cast somali actors to play them. we went to minneapolis where the main somali community in the u.s. is. to be honest, i thought it was going to be very hard to find four actors that could play opposite tom. that's no small task. when we got there it was something like 7 or 800 people turned up. there were more quality actors than you could shake a stick at. >> what did you think? >> i know if you can get past the self-consciousness of saying
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you're an actor and performing, the movie making racket is something you can figure out in the morning or an afternoon. the other part is the aspect is maintaining that characterization and believe it. these guys were not intimidated by anything and they were very well prepared for this. they worked for weeks. they came in pumped and remained so throughout. >> i covered a lot of what happened in somali from the time these actors left their country. the war, the war lords. black hawk down. it happened to be the 20th anniversary. i think you try to give some context to these pirates, which i had never seen before. some humanity to these pirates. >> i think one of the central threads of movie making is to tell us about the world and tell us where we sit. this story does that with
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dramatic characters. you feel that experience but also you get a little sense of the complex landscape of the world. >> you've done the great hollywood movies you've been awarded for and become famous for. whether it's philadelphia or saving private ryan. what was important for you to achiever in terms of how these pirates were portrayed. >> the best record is human behavior that's also checkered and a complex motivation. they do not hue to the antagonist story line which is the basis of any dramatic art. the interaction between richard phillips and all four of the
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somali in the lifeboat, in reality there were laughs. there were jokes. there was a type of banter that went by all at the same time richard phillips was convinced that big guy was going to shoot him in the head for no reason. that's a type that brings out the most flinty aspect of human nature. i have to hold the mirror up to human nature. >> you talked to the real captain phillips. he saved his ship. he saved his crew. >> the name of his book is "a captain's duty." i think it's duty there. whether for good or bad he has to solve every problem that comes that way. in this case there was primary motive was to get the guys off the ship. he would never use the word
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hero. he said i was waiting for the heroes to show up. >> before we talk about that and whoever we think the heroes are, i want to play another clip about their intentions. >> he came to you. >> operations. >> receiving. >> opposition is two degrees, two north by 49 degrees, 19 east. the course is 180. speed is 17 knots. we have two skiffs appropriating at 1.5 miles. potential piracy situation. >> alert your crew and follow lockdown procedures. >> yeah, is that it? >> i'm relaying your transmission now but chances are it's just fishermen. >> they're not here to fish. >> i've played them out of sequence. this was before they boarded. apparently a lot of this piracy
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is because they're fishing waters have been depleted. how does that strike you? >> it's one of the real tragedies that go on that contributes to the problems. they have swept the place clean. some of the marine life is coming back because of piracy. >> that was, in the '80s and the '90s that was the response. you saw criminal bands get in there. it becomes what it is today which is hugely lucrative. the idea these are just fishermen, one of the things that was kwiequite successful ie film, we show how that was not true. that may have been once true. now you're talking about
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international crime with its roots. >> tom, you've spent so much of your career doing things that are really in the news, really political, really cultural. things that really matter when you did "philadelphia," 20 years ago. it was at the height of the aids crisis. who knew how this was all going to work out. could you imagine then that now gay marriage is legalized in many states. now you can be openly gay and serve in the united states military. now being gay is a much more acceptable thing here in the united states. >> i could. part of that is my basic, what's the word i'm looking for? positive attitude where we are as americans. we always seem to be moving
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forward on some sort of righteous front. we always seem to be a better version of ourselves. with philadelphia, it was the beginning of the public acceptance of the debate. it was no longer gay strangers who danced in clubs in urban centers that were dying of the disease. it was the bank tellers at our banks and the people we went to church to and people we went to high school with. that meant to me this just an example of america constantly redefines ourselves. we always redefine ourselves for the better. >> you won the oscar for that film in 1993. you talked about many gay plmen and women who inspired you. you also said this. >> wish my babies could have the same sort of teachers and my friends. there lies the dilemma here
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tonight. i know my work is magnified by the fact that the streets of heavens are too crowded we angels. we know their names. they number a thousands for each one of the red ribbons we wear here tonight. they finally embrace in the warm embrace of the gracious creator of us all. >> that's the way i feel. >> you were emotional then. you tell me you believe in the glass half full. did you think then because you were so worried about sad about it back then? >> that's a very motional moment that plays itself out in front of billions of people. i did feel that the time would come where a common sense would prevail and be able to understand our brothers dilemma more than we care about our own narrow sense of some brand of law that is beyond that. >> tom hanks, thank very much.
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good luck. paul greengrass thank you very mump. wonderful film. after a break, how do you find a real life somali to play a pirate opposite tom hanks? paul went to minneapolis, minnesota. the young man who answered that casting call when we come back. . you have the it card and it's your first time missing a payment, so there's no late fee. really? yep! so is your husband off the hook? no. he went out for milk last week and came back with a puppy. hold it. hold it. hold it. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms and pilots and stadiums. but, of course, it's a good listener too.
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welcome back to the program. he moved with his family to yemen and 14 years ago to the u.s. state of minnesota in order to escape the devastating somali war. he never acted in a film before and he tells me how she was chosen by director paul greengrass and how he felt about
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starring opposite none other than tom hanks. welcome to the program. >> thank you. >> did you ever think in your wildest dreams you would be playing in a major hollywood movie with the biggest hollywood star ever, tom hanks? >> not at all. not at all. it's not something i planned for it. >> what happened? when did you get the call? how did you know? >> well, i was just at my friend's house hanging out. >> in minneapolis in. >> where i live. it came on local television. the local channel saying casting call tom hanks film, somali actress. i kind of felt they came a little too close. i always loved acting. it's shotgun i want-- something wanted to do. >> i would just shoot music videos.
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i wasn't in front of the camera. >> i'm going to play this clip. we already played it once. i want to show you yourself as a hollywood actor. >> we got a problem. we push the ship too hard. we're off the grid. >> captain, no one gets hurt if you don't play in game. >> the ship's broken. >> nobody gets hurt. hey, look at me. >> sure. >> look at me. >> sure. >> i'm the captain now. >> look at me. you weren't intimidated at all. >> that was the first time i met
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tom. >> right there, that scene? >> yeah. when we got selected for the film, paul put us through the training. >> what sort of training? >> swimming. i didn't know how to swim. cl climbing, fighting. i had to learn how to stand still. after we done all that training, we're all excited to see tom. we wanted to see tom. after that time paul comes to us and i say no one is going to see tom like until the first scene of the film you're doing with him. we were sort of disappointed. i understood the wait of the scene. it was the same scene we did the auditions for. >> he wanted to keep the drama. he wanted to make it like tom the captain was seeing you, the pirate, for the first time? >> right. i understand the aspect of it. i thought about it that much.
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i didn't get much sleep thinking about it. when i came the second day paul come to me and say you have to own it. you have to take control. do what you got to do. >> who would have known you weren't an actor or a pirate, by the way. that was pretty convincing. >> thank you. >> what did you think about portraying a pirate? somali has had a pretty bad rep. i've covered it for 20 years. you all went through a famine and war lords. what went through your mind? what did you think about what your country would say about it, your country people? >> well, right there and then, before the auditions began, there was a lot of people around me saying that this film will embarrass somali people. i didn't look at it that way. i did not look at it that way. it was a true story that happened. i understood why this pirate
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doing what they're doing. they are some separate guys. we all know survivor in a lawless country for the last 24 years. growing up i heard all sort of bad stuff about my country. everything was going on. at this point, to me it was just tell the story. it was something that i loved. i had to do it. >> would you hope the take away would be for your family in somalia, the people that will see it? >> i hope they understand what the motivation that these people does. >> you mean the pirates? >> yeah, the poverty. >> the organized crime. >> these pirates are mostly just young men being used by older guys. >> how have you felt recently? you've had somalis who have
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wreaked havoc in nairobi at a mall. you had navy seals try to get the leader just this week. there you are in minneapolis trying to have an american life. >> we're just sick and tired of them giving a bad rep to our people. all somali people are not bad. there's a lot of success stories going on here in the u.s. and in somali. all we hear about is just the bad parts. we're tired of it. question don't support these people. i really feel sorry for all the bad stuff that happened to them. >> do you have family still in somali? >> i have a lot of people there that i haven't met all my life. >> you haven't met them? >> some i've never met. >> will you ever go back mp. >> one day. >> what do you want to do with the rest of your life?
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>> for now i want to see if i can act more and see how it goes from there. >> well, barkhard, abdi, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> if he ever goes home, what kind of country will he find? it's been 20 years since the military united states disit's aer predicted in another movie, "black hawkdown." woo we'll look at how far they have come since then when we come back. only at red lobster where we sea food differently. [ male announcer ] now try 7 lunch choices at $7.99. sandwiches, salads, and more. [ male announcer ] now try 7 lunch choices at $7.99. hall we do is go out to dinner.? that's it? i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great...what? he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. so he's just racking up points with me. some people... ugh!
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> finally, just as captain phillips offers a look at the turk lens, an earlier film offered a military raid gone terribly wrong. imagine the world where the victim of violence and terrorism has come a long way and still has a long way to go.
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20 years ago he was backed by an emerging al qaeda held sway over the country and it was meant to end his rein of terror. it ended in disaster with young somalis dancing on a blackhawk helicopter. i was there. >> three years, all the that remains is this wreckage of a helicopter and the ruins of a u.s. policy that aimed to restore hope but for the clinton administration ended in humiliation, defeat and retreat. america took a long time to recover from that damage to its prides and to its foreign policy. yet in the intervening decades the grip of the war lords has given way to a constitution and a parliamentary government and its first female foreign minister. a recent guest on this program. while piracy has dimensioned,
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there is still a threat. that's it for tonight's program. you can always contact us on our website, amanpour.com. thanks for watching and good-bye from new york. what started out innocently with teddy bears became anything but at the vma awards in september. a performance that had tongues wagging. >> it became that moment of a singer/song writer, entertaining finding that special moment. >> i thought it was sloppy and i didn't think it was professional
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singer/songwriter/entertainer. >> it didn't hurt that her father was a hit maker. the fact he had one big hit puts him in a level where he had access to musicians and producers and record company people that she probably not had met were it not for her father. >> what could be better having famous father? having a music legend like dolly parton as a godmother. later in her life she recorded "jolene." >> i think looking to dolly, looking to the sort of eccentric showmanship of a dolly parton really helped find her own style. >> she was just a toddler back in 1993 when she was on the stage with many of music's biggest names. >> we're doing a tribute to elvis presley and she broke away
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arnand weiners. i was good with those types but things but not let's sit down and dwrour algebra. >> he was good at looking out for her little girl who had her eyes on big things. >> they were doing a video thing at the farm and miley was out there and she was two and a half. they were at a barn on the property. she was standing up on some landing and billy said be careful, honey. she put her hands on her hips and said i'm not afraid of anything. that's two and a half. >> fearless and bold. two traits that continue to define her as she grew up, went to school and became a cheerleader. >> she went to a private evangelical school, a christian school for a year. >> rolling stone editor had rare access to miley. >> she was asked to leave after a year. she had a couple different versions of why.
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i'm not sure which one is why wp in one version she told the class about french kissing and in another version her teacher was an older woman who got around on a little motorized scooter and she stole it at one point and cruising around the classroom on her teacher's scooter. it was not the perfect fit. ♪ it's a party in the usa >> what was a great fit? music. >> miley was a good student. she worked hard and she didn't fight your advice. >> renee grant williams was her voice teacher when she was 12. >> she had an ingeneral youous way of get whag sting what she by being charming and enthusiastic and willing to take the work on. >> what she wanted became
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crystal here in 2001 when the family left tennessee for toronto where billy ray was fiml the tv show "doc." >> she said can they write something in for me. they wrote her in one. and she said can they write me in next week. a few weeks after that we went to see mamma mia in toronto. it was that combination of acting and the performance on stage of the singers and she said that's what i want to do. ♪ things have changed that's a fact ♪ >> i'm going to be a great actress and a singer songwriter. >> she went for it. >> i'm miley cyrus and i'm auditioning for the role of zoey and hannah montana. >> in 2003, against her father's wishes, she auditioned for the role of a lifetime. >> i think you can see the long
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i'm miley cyrus. i'm with ced and auditions for the role of zoey and hannah montana. >> in 2003, 11-year-old miley hoped this audition was her ticket to hollywood. >> she was the least likely person to get this job. >> producer stooeeve peterman w part of the team. >> she was an 11 that looked nine. way too small. >> she wouldn't give up. >> i'm miley cyrus and i'm 12 years old. >> it's so good for you. it was like a vegetable. >> she read for us and she read for us over and over again. she would do some lines
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fabulously, wonderfully and she would miss other lines by a mile. >> oh, my gosh. i know. i'm an idiot. >> i couldn't take my eyes off her. >> two years later producers still weren't convinced. they gave miley one last shot. >> now that this is your final a aaudition for this project? >> only my three bestest friends. >> it ultimately came down to miley and one other girl. with miley there was something about her that was so alive and so fearless and all of us finally agreed to take the chance. >> at 13, miley cyrus became hannah montana. >> you're so gross. >> and was living her dream. ♪ i'm a lucky girl ♪ whose dreams came true
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>> miley was the perfect fit wp a schoolgirl with a secret double life as a pop star. >> she's your best friend. sooner or later you'll have to tell her. >> i think that's one of the things that really connected about hannah montana was the realism that well, wait a minute, this is art imitating life, imitating art. >> my liley auditioned her on d for the part of her tv dad. >> good job. ♪ get ready, get set ♪ don't go >> one of the episodes is ready get set, don't go. i wrote that song as she headed to california. the serioes was picked up. i knew her life and my life was going to change.
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>> the show and miley were a smash. hannah montana became one of disney's highest rated tv series and miley shot up to teen idol status. >> i think you could see the sort of long range plan when you look at her hannah montana audition. you could see she knew exactly what she would doing. she knew the world would be a steppingstone to other things. merchandise, tv, music. she was the first star to embrace all of these things. ♪ ♪ >> in 2007, she released hannah montana two, meet miley cyrus. she debuted under her real name. her second album "break out" went platinum. in 2008, a hint that miley was feeling the pressure of being
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one of the biggest teen stars on the planet. >> it's like the plemedia is a mother. it's like trying to let them go and grow up. i feel like they are having hard time with that. >> her next conquest a film career. she landed part in "high school musical two." then the voice of penny in "bolt." >> he could be anywhere by now. >> in 2009, she brought her tv character to life on the big screen in hannah montana, the movie. >> it's all about the publicity. >> 31 million in its opening weekend. it cemented her as more than a singer, more than an actress. she was an all around performer. >> she was white hot, but disney's billion dollar baby would get her first taste of
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controversy. it all started with a provocative vanity fair photo shoot. 15-year-old miley barely dressed. no longer the girl next door. then miley shocked fans when she spiced up her performance at the 2009 performance by poll dancing to party in the usa. the video went viral and parents postal. >> her parents or their parents were like, whoa, this isn't the hannah montana we know. >> we couldn't do much about that. it's that fearlessness and that sense of what she's doing to do now? it means she's going to at times make mistakes. >> miley was unphafazed. >> i think the media tries to overdo it. it's no one else's business how my parents raise me or how i'm being raised.
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>> yesterday her parents were concerned when a video surfaced of miley taking a bong hit. >> okay. i'm about to lose it now. >> i was alarmed for my daughter's safety. >> miley down played the video saying it wasn't pot and apologized for the vanity fair spread but her image was changing. her 2010 album and single said it all. ♪ i can't change >> look at the album title, "can't be tamed." she put it out there. i feel like we saw it play out in front of our eyes. this person breaking loose of the disney character. >> in 2011, the split became official when miley quit the show that made her a global phenomenon. hannah montana was no more. coming up, you were down there and i said you know what, back
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"rolling stone." >> two years after hannah montana ended -- 20-year-old miley cyrus on the edge. she's skydiving with "rolling stone" magazine. extreme, unafraid and ready for reinvention. this is the new miley cyrus. >> we were both kind of terrified, i think. it was a situation where neither of us really wanted to back down. i think she just likes, she's kind of like pushing the envelope right now. >> it's a very difficult thing to do and few can pull it off. when you make that break, it has to be a break. you can't leave one foot in the preteen, tween world.
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>> miley moved out of her parent's house and in with boyfriend, liam hemsworth. >> she got a new label and new management. she felt like she needed a change because not that they were going to hold her back, but just that they might be sort of scared at the way she was going to go. >> and miley was going to go for big risks. ♪ with her first single, question we can't stop," she released a video full of sex, drugs and in her words -- ♪ shaking it like we're at a strip club ♪ >> we saw a shock of white shaved hair, rolling around in a bed, playing with plush toys. >> derek interviewed miley for
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bazaar. >> i think she told the record label, look, if you give me this one chance to do it my vision and it goes belly up, i'll do whatever you want. >> she risked it all and it worked. breaking records, going viral and reaching over 10 million views within 24 hours of its release. ♪ it's our party we can do what we want to ♪ now, miley could do exactly what she wanted to and what she wanted was a memorable performance at the mtv video music awards, where millions of americans would get their first look at the new miley. >> she was a little nervous because this was a big roll out of you know, this is who i'm going to be now. >> on stage with robin thicke, she stripped down to nothing but nude underwear, grinding with a giant foam finger and she twerked. >> i was sitting next to my
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daughter, i remember turning around just to see what those around me were doing and everyone had the same expression on their face, which was like, are you seeing what i'm seeing? >> it was hot, but was it a mess? her critics thought so. even brook shields, mother on hannah montana, told the "today" show -- >> it's a bit desperate. i want to know who's advising her and why it's necessary. >> then, there were the more than 150 fcc complaints. >> some were pretty humorous. someone said it was like watching a brothel. other people complain about child pornography, which she's 20 years old. >> miley's reaction -- >> she laughed the whole thing off. she knew it was going to get a reaction. that's part of why she did it, but everyone is talking about her. >> and miley was quick to point that out, tweeting my vma
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performance had 306 tweets per minute. that's more than the blackout or super bowl. and she said exactly what she thought in her mtv documentary, the movement. >> it's a strategic, hot mess. right now, i'm in a point in m my career where i can be wa i want to be. >> it only fueled her confidence. in her next video, miley was sometimes naked while riding a wrecking ball and licking a sledgehammer. and this time, she wanted to show something different. her vulnerability. >> two-thirds of the way through the song when the bridge hits and you really, you see her shed a tear. >> a tear over a tortured romance. rumored to be about her fiance.
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>> i think she wants to show the more sensitive side and not just the party girl side, too. >> soon after its release, "wrecking ball" became the number one song in the country. miley and liam announced they were breaking up for good. and snl invited her to host the show. >> who are you? >> what do you mean? i'm old you. >> on everyone's mind, what would the wild child do next? >> miley cyrus! >> but surprisingly, miley was pretty tame. there was no nudity. no twerking. and no apologies for the vmas. >> if i owe anybody an apology, it's the people who make the bottom half of shirts. the mild mannered performance kept the focus on the music. ♪ yeah yeah >> she's showing the different sides of miley cyrus, the performer and the one thing you
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can't deny, even going back to hannah montana, she has a really good voice. she knows how to sing and "wrecking ball" just puts it out there. ♪ i came in like a wrecking ball i never hit so hard ♪ >> i'm going to list some words that some people have used to describe her. disaster. >> definitely not. very calculated and very self-aware. >> gifted. >> yes. definitely gifted. has talent. fearless. very fearless. >> and finally, genius. >> i don't know about that. let's not go crazy. >> the new miley is incontrol. i think she's really smart and knows what she wants to do with her career next. >> and what she does next, she told mtv, will be unforgettable. >> every time i do anything, i want the remember this is what separates me from everything
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else. i do get so overwhelmed when i'm going to perform because everything has to be perfect. everything has to be so huge. everything we do has to be a moment. good evening. i'm anderson cooper. it was a hot summer afternoon in erie, pennsylvania. into a small branch bank steps a man wearing a white t-shirt with what he said was a bomb strapped underneath. he was a local pizza delivery man and the bomb turned out to be real. so real for the first time in the history of the fbi, a bank robbery was elevated to major status. that was only the beginning. the beginning of one of the most serious crimes that would unravel into a murder with life and death at stake and a murderer still walking free today. drew griffin has the story. >> the most bizarre bank robbery in the history of the fbi.